010: A Conversation with Former Secretary of Education John King, Pt. 1

Aug 7, 2025
36 mins

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Zac and Stephanie welcome former U.S. Secreatary of Education John King to the show to discuss his new book Teacher by Teacher

In this first part of the conversation, we discuss where we can find hope as public education is under attack, how we can fight for the rights of students across the country, and how we can begin vulnerable conversations with folks with whom we disagree.

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