In this episode I talk with Tanaya Winder (Southern Ute, Pyramid Lake Paiute, Navajo, and Black tribes). We discuss her books, Love like words and Why Storms Are Named After People and Bullets Remain Nameless. We discuss grief work, growing up the Southern Ute reservation in Ignacio, Colorado and her journey in publishing in and self publishing.  Content warning, we also discuss a bit about Missing and murdered Indigenous women and relatives.