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Gentle and Sweet

Oct 8, 2025
28 mins

Episode Description

How did Rick McLaren, an enthusiastic magazine reader from Ohio, become the leader of a secessionist nation in Texas? Zoe dives into the archives to find out. 

Flavors of this episode: tennis balls, Chenin Blanc, dusty records, hot dogs, microfilm, courthouse carpet, iPads.

A Whole Other Country is produced and reported by Zoe Kurland and edited by Liza Yeager. 

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